American Third Position Party - California Study Confirms Extent of Mexican Colonization
Thursday, June 10, 2010 at 09:39AM The article below caught my attention as it fairly accurately describes a situation in California that I alluded to in an Editorial May 20th
California Study Confirms Extent of Mexican Colonization
Posted: 08 Jun 2010 07:36 PM PDT
While providing a less-than-shocking confirmation that California is undergoing a colossal demographic transformation, the scale of which is not often seen outside campaigns of ethnic cleansing, the latest report concerning California demography, conducted by the California Department of Finance, provides some alarming insight into the nature of the displacement of Whites from the state.
“What we’re seeing here is colonization, not immigration”, said the A3P’s Brian Alexander, whose family helped settle the state.
“We’re not seeing our government here lend a helping hand to those immigrants who’d like to make a better life for themselves. We’re seeing a well-orchestrated campaign of colonization, sponsored by our own government and backed by a people who’d like to benefit by the infrastructure we’ve created.”
“Our own people face massive discrimination and have to put up with constant harassment and intimidation, no doubt brought on by state- and media-sponsored campaigns to incite violence against us. Although definitely part of the decision to move, Whites aren’t moving just because of skyrocketing home prices and a lack of jobs, both of which are products of unfettered immigration. Whites are moving because this place isn’t any longer recognizable. It’s now a foreign country, and it’s uncomfortable just being here.”
Reader Comments (37)
This is NOT a country "of" or "for" whites.
Hispanics may be any race, white or black or mestizo.
Hispanics were in California long before Anglos were. If there was any 'colonization,' it was the Anglo colonization of the Southwest.
The history of this nation is wave after wave of immigrants. Change is the only constant in our ethnic makeup...and its all good.
The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
Bringing Mexico's problems here so the USA taxpayers are stuck paying for the Health education and welfare of their population...
By the way Thom .. I knew you weren't talking about me being a racist. I can't be racist according to all the liberal doublespeak, I am not WHITE!
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Bob DeMaura
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Gus...what do you mean 'everybody says there is this RACE problem.'
I don't see a race problem at all. I see people as God made them. And it really doesnt matter. what hue or combo anyone is, or how many there are. WOuld you suggest seperating the races to maintain purity? Wow, this boggles the mind....
Is being "literally" disgusting more wretchéd than being figuratively disgusting?
"Gus...what do you mean 'everybody says there is this RACE problem.'" Ah Thom, knock knock...are you there? You Sir are the very fellow who declared practically speechlessly that the article was overtly racist.
Since you brought God into this exchange, need I remind you that He is the very Person who created race in the very first place and also it was He who saw to it that racial differences matter. If you feel that makes Him a racist...well "shut-up" names don't work with HIm.
Thom, please try to marinate the following in your cerebral juices:
Asia for Asians
Africa for Africans
White countries for EVERYBODY!
It's White Genocide by assimilation!
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore..."
...unless they're not white, AMIRITE?
Hey, you guys are really concerned about the fate of blacks too, right? Because they're just as much under threat from all these things you're trying to spread fear about. The black population is rising much slower than many immigrant populations, too.
Because if you don't have the same concerns for blacks it might seem as though it's because they're just your fellow *Americans* and not your fellow *whites*. As if it's not America you care about, not the USA... as if you just care about yourselves. Screw America and all of its values and traditions and its history once you come face-to-face with having to share it with anyone else, having to share it with immigrants like our forefathers did. (The ones who weren't immigrants themselves, that is.)
As if you're singing -
♪ This land is *my* land, this land is *my* land, from California... ♫
And forget about all of those states and cities that _have Spanish names_ in this "white country" as Gus calls it. Montaña, Arizona, Nuevo Mexico, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Boca Raton... Really, what cheek and arrogance Mexicans have for moving to New Mexico! It's almost as if they originally founded the place as a colony of Mexico 400 years ago or something.
And those French Canadians. We'd better watch out or sooner or later a third of New Hampshire is going to find itself descended from French immigrants and there will be French place names everywhere, heck we could end up with signs at the borders awelcoming people into the state in French. I mean, it's almost like we'd be a colony of Québec.
You make the same BOLD MISDIRECTION as all Bleeding heart Liberals then try to slough it off ..as racism ...
There is a difference between Immigration and ILLEGAL Immigration...
When a Country, Mexico, is complicit in sending it's people here to have the USA Feed, House and Educate them on our dime that is a serious issue for the State Department .. it no longer is about IMMIGRATION. When Armed Insurgents cross our border and attack our citizens and guests it is no longer about Immigration. In fact we formerly called that an ACT of WAR!
As for the Blacks being held back .. Bill Cosby made the best statements about that. He places the blame directly on where it should be, the failure of the Black community to insist that their members act responsibly and take charge of their lives.
I also find the Democrats and their Great Society programs ruined the Black community much more than they helped. They made the Black community reliant on Big Government programs that were a disincentive to the population to improve their lot.
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Bob DeMaura
The relaity is that the America-For-Whites metality expressed in those posts apply against BOTH legal AND illegal immigration.
Your defense is worthless straw, buddy. You have revealed yourselves to be segregationists.
What seals the deal is that when I mention that blacks are affected by all of these same things - low birth rates as I mentioned, and rising home prices and lack of jobs, and the place they live becoming as unrecognizable as a foreign country - all of those things which right up above you're saying are caused by immigrants when they are problems for white people - when I propose that black Americans will have all the same problems due to demographic changes and that you should be just as concerned about them as the white people whom this thread discusses, you start talking about Bill Cosby and failures of the black community.
(And Democrats, which is even more tangential. You know Thom's a Republican, right? I'm an independent. Does quoting what it says on the plaque on the Statue of Liberty count as "Bleeding heart Liberal" around here? Go ahead and throw me in that category if revering American values like this is just too patriotic for you, it sounds as though I'll get along with whoever else you're randomly grabbing and putting in there.)
When you say things like that and post an article that refers to whites as "ethnic-Americans" and is so brazenly far more concerned with white Americans over other Americans or the nation as a whole, and which "accidentally" forgets to mention the "illegal" part when talking about immigrants - I don't have to mention racism and I have not so far, people can judge your views based upon your words and actions. I've never been to NHInsider.com before and I'm glad that this page and this conversation with you has been my first exposure so that I can take anything else I read here with a shaker full of salt.
I'm all for locking down the border and I could be persuaded to support increased and more systematized deportation of illegal immigrants but NOT if it's just an instrument of racism. Justice and equality under the law and all the other things that made America what it is are a hell of alot more important than keeping real estate prices down for whites or making sure that farm laborers can't go to the hospital or whatever this article is trying to pretend is the motivation here.
My point in posting the article is that it points out that there is an active and growing effort by certain groups in the Southwest USA and Mexico to over run the system with Mexican nationals in the name of Mexican Sovereignty and a perceived Historical Right to populate that area with Mexican Nationals. Further they feel it is the USA's responsibility to House, Feed and Educate these folks, provide them with Jobs and opportunities while allowing them to maintain their Mexican National status!
Yeah the writer may be a white racist... And the respondent Gus may be as well but like the old adage in psychiatry "Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you" Just because he is a racist doesn't mean he isn't right about 'colonization'.
There are legal means for immigration, the USA is extremely "generous" in our support and acceptance of immigrants. We literally welcome millions of new citizens every year. And yes some of those should and are Mexicans.
However what is taking place in the Southwest USA is beyond any immigration issue. It is a serious State Department issue that the USA needs to get to work on. And I don't mean Standing and Applauding the Mexican President when he speaks and promotes this idea of Mexican Sovereignty over the Southwest USA!
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Bob DeMaura
Your knee-jerk response to the article is mere race-baiting by proxy. Nothing more. The new cultural fight in this country is to redefine how we think, read and communicate. Liberals seem to gravitate to redefining what words mean, stepping away from their origins, original etymology and how they are used in speech, thought and the written word. Thus, the article was written based on the interpretation of economic and social events presently occurring in California, without regard to whether one agrees or disagrees.
Without plainly stating so, you have advocated to maintain the ongoing racial divides in this nation that pit whites against blacks, Jew against Gentile, Hispanics against whites or whatever emotional pablum you and your liberal pals can fester up to keep the fight going so liberals can use minority groups to maintain their corrupt amoral power base.
But what is most encouraging is watching Blacks and Hispanics reject people with ideas and concepts like yours and choosing to opt for more self determination, respect and prosperity. As Blacks and Hispanics continue to achieve higher standards of living and social status, they will continue to ignore the old time race baiting that you and your ilk keep bringing to the table.
Racism still exists and will likely always be with us. It speaks more to a human condition and transcends any and all legislation that has come and will come. But for the rest of us, what has become clear is that the larger rightful-minded society rejects it and rightfully ignores it as unjust and not useful, rather than pandering to it as liberals do.
"knee-jerk response?!" Why do you refuse to condmemn the clearly vile whites-only attitude that permeates the article? THE ARTICLE DOES NOT PIT CITIZENS AGAINST ILLEGAL ALIENS....It specifically PITS WHITES AGAINST ALL OTHERS. End of discussion. Have the cojones to calla spade a spade, instead of running through ad hominems and semantic gynmnastics to defend what is clearly, on its face, prima faciae, indefensible abd un-American?
I'll give you this much...never in my life has anyone who has ever known me called me a "liberal." For a guy like me who cuts his political teeth on Ronald Reagan's campaigns...calling me a liberal clearly shows just how far to the right-wing has lurched as it runs pell-mell off of a cliff...
White supremacy is the very *antithesis* of America - it's the opposite of Land of the Free, of "all men are created equal" and "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights", and of being "one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all". Not to Godwin but it's literally Nazi stuff we're talking about here.
If the idea is "We're going to *use* the white supremacists to accomplish some good immigration policy, just humor them for a little while!" or "We're going to use the white supremacists to just neutralize and counter out the Latino racial supremacists that they're telling us about, then they'll both be gone!" those are, frankly, recklessly stupid ideas and furthermore are means that do not justify their ends. White supremacists have far more ability and potential to pervert and destroy America and destroy all of the American things I mention above than does this demographic shift which as far as I can tell is inevitable anyways even without any further illegal immigration. (And which isn't a secret or anything, so it doesn't seem to me that you need to go to sources like this to report on it.)
It's a crappy choice to have to choose between White Supremacy and the Invasion of Neo-Conquistador Mexican Racists... but it so happens that it's the white supremacists who are the ones *telling* us here that we're faced with that dichotomy and have to make that choice. A bit coincidental really.
And I'll say again that people should judge you by your words and actions, and follow that up with the observation that whether it's due to an editorial oversight or otherwise, by passing this article on to your readers with no comment on the unambiguously racist message it presents alongside its facts and by refraining from repudiating that message even now you are at the very least giving material aid to the agendas of white supremacists.
The point of the article is that there is an "invasion" taking place with Radical Mexican Nationals both inside the USA and in Mexico. A number of examples were given, and I did make explicit reference to another editorial written by me that talks about the same exact thing.
That the reason some people don't like the invasion is because they are White Supremacists is really not that important a fact. No more than saying the reason small business likes unlimited immigration is to get cheap labor they can abuse.
One hand there is a definitive event taking place, the hows or whys someone supports or protests that event are subjective and open to each individuals interpretation.
For instance you (and Thom) have been obsessed to distraction with the fact that a White Supremacist wrote the article and have never really commented on the actual topic of the article "The Invasion of Southwest USA by Mexican Nationals".
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Bob DeMaura
The white supremacist message being presented here alongside a handful of data tidbits about the demographic shift is not some irrelevant "distracting" detail. As I outlined above it's a threat to everything which makes America America and it's a far greater danger to what is important about this country and what our forefathers fought for and often died for than the "Latino ascendancy during the next century that's probably going to happen 99% accidentally and maybe 1% intentionally, whether we like it or not" story.
Your refusal to say anything negative about the white supremacist anti-all-immigrants pro-whites-only agenda involved here and the need to twist your arm to even acknowledge its existence in the article *you posted* is effectively an endorsement of that white supremacist agenda. You really need to consider what you're trying to do here, man; at the very least you're tossing out the baby (i.e. American values, traditions and history) with the bathwater. I would note that something that's also in the title of this post is "American Third Position", which is not something that exactly steers the discussion away from white supremacy and racism if you've spent any time reading their forums.
By all means report on this demographic trend but teaming up with white supremacists on this or getting your information or messaging from them is playing with fire and not really something that other Americans can ignore or look past if they care about their country.
P.S. The link to your previous article goes to a "Page Not Found" error for me, sorry I didn't mention that sooner.
One of the criticisms our founding fathers leveled against King George in the Declaration of Independence is that he hindered immigration:
"...He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither..."
We are a nation of immigrants and a mosaic of ethnic majorities in different locations. No colonization, no invasio...., simply immigration by groups that add to America's fabric.
When the Irish and the Germans, Italians, Polish, etc came over they made every attempt to assimilate into the culture of America. and as much as you think it was an invasion they had to adhere to strict quotas on immigrants from each country.
The Mexicans are coming over, declaring that they do not have to follow immigration laws as it is their sovereign land to begin with. They make no attempt to assimilate. LaRaza is in the forefront of this "invasion". I hear no complaints about LaRaza (The RACE) being racist when they denounce the "White Americans" calling them names etc.
The Mexican government is a failed state with the drug cartels ruling the northern part of Mexico. Mexico's answer to their citizens is to help them get to the USA so they can get free health, education, welfare and housing that the Mexican Government is unable to assist them with.
As it is California is drowning in red ink, and the rest of the country will be asked to cover their expenses for their very generous benefits they give to illegals that the average American does not have access to such as free college tuition.
We will have to just disagree and see what happens.
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Bob DeMaura
(2) *EVERY* immigrant groups has come here because their homeland was a 'failed state:' The fall of Vietname, the Irish Famine, the Scottish Clearances, the Hapsburgh Wars, the Russian Revolution, you name it: people leave their countries *PRECISELY* because those countries are failed states and are looking for a better life.
(3) If your problem is welfare, I suggest that (a) you investigate what is available, (b) take a look at the number of native-born Americans who take advantage of it, and (c) recommend a system for reducing abuse. I assure you, the language, nationality, and culture of the intended recipient is a non-material issue if you look at the REAL problems you identify.
If there had been more of them - if the Western U.S. had been formed from formerly Italian-speaking colonial areas and we had a border with an Italian-speaking nation I bet we'd see something like the prevalence of Latino culture we see now.
When you pull your web site's content from white supremacists those authors are going to avoid any information like that and indeed perhaps even try to hide it. *And* they're going to try to get away with stating unsupported "facts" that have nothing at all to do with the government study under discussion, as this article does with its claims of "massive discrimination" against whites and of a media conspiracy to incite violence against whites. The source of the information sure as hell *does* matter and you have kind of burnt up credulity and credibility by continuing to assert at this point that it's insignificant and tangential that an article saying things like this was written by white supremacists.
Go ahead and work on immigration issues, there are lots of important ones, but you're only going to shoot yourself in the foot by approaching it this way. You're going to raise way more red flags with most Americans if you associate with or abet white supremacists than even the most difficult and recurring immigration issues will raise, and rightly so.
Whats your point that the Native Americans had a shitty Immigration policy? Wouldn't that be even more reasons to tighten up the borders? After all we all know how the "Open Borders" thing worked out for the American Indian!
The point is still the same ... The situation in the Southwest is beyond Immigration Policy.
We have Illegals marching in the streets with their Mexican Flags demanding the USA take care of them! I don't recall too many of these type protests from the previous waves of immigrants.
Go to YouTube and you will find bunches of videos documenting illegals crossing the border, videos of Drug Mules carrying "pot" into the USA. Yet the US Government can't seem to find any of this and chooses to ignore it as they see them as Undocumented Democrats and not illegals.
And you are so concerned that someone "white" is making racial statements yet care not a stitch that the group LaRaza is racist at its very core principles. You follow the pattern to a tee - ":Whites" are racists everyone else has legitimate grievances so they can't be racists! At what point will the "Whites" assume the privileged role of the oppressed?
Would you accept a Quota for Mexican Immigration? It's what everyone else has to deal with why not the Mexicans?