I Want Obama To Fail
Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 03:35PM I want Obama to fail seems to be said by more and more people these days, but what does it mean? Any thinking person would first ask the question fail at what?
Fail at defending our nation? Clearly no sane person would want that as it would result in dead Americans.
Fail at turning around the economy? Again, that would result in Americans losing their jobs and not something those who cherish this country would ever want for their fellow Americans.
So what is it so many want Obama to fail at. Well to answer that you must actually look at his agenda and what it is he's trying to do.
1) He's looking to expand abortions and has already reversed law that prevents tax payers dollars from funding them. Do I want my tax dollars used to murder babies in later term abortions who are in some cases able to live outside the womb? Heck no! I question the morality of anyone who wants this policy to succeed.
2) He's looking to strip away gun rights. Do I want our second amendment rights weakened or perhaps abolished? Again no!
3) Through the stimulous package he is looking at wealth redistribution. He has already made it clear he wants to punish those earning $250,000 or more with higher taxes and it's very clear that with the amount of spending he is pushing through that eventually the taxes of even the middle class will have to be increased to cover it all. Do I want less money in my weekly pay so some welfare mother of 6 without a job can sit home with her kids living off my hard work? Do I want to pay for tattoo removal of "former" gang members (actual expense in the stimulus bill)? Again, no! I work hard for what I earn and I'm entitled to my pay.
4) He's looking to remodel out health care system to match that of Cuba. Do I want the problems that accompany Universal Health Care? No!
5) His policies allow for more open borders and allowing more of the bottom rungs of other nations to come to America and have full access to programs our hard earned tax dollars pay for. Do I want to be the handout capital of the world? No!
The list goes on and on...
So when people say they want Obama to fail, if you are a thinking person the correct response is "at what" and chances are that unless you are a far left wing socialist you will most likely agree.
Reader Comments (21)
If some fascist, oil insider gets into the white house in 2012 they can take the thirty or forty percent they already purchased in the fire sale and the twenty one percent they convinced the government to purchase and control the global economy with an iron fist. Obama at the top of all this is an optical illusion. He had nothing to do with the creation of all this mess, but he will end up being a patsy.
But, hey, continue on. I share all your beliefs except for health care. But I know that Obama is a bit better than what is coming. I know that Obama, by far, is not the worst in store for us.
I suggest you think a little before you jump back into partisan politics. Both sides are being played and the endgame is an America purchased free and clear by a small group of nut cases who are convinced they can get away with it.
Regarding Obama having nothing to do with the creation of this mess, well to a point I agree with you but he took something bad and made it a heck of a lot worse. The best comparison I've heard is that of a car left without breaks on while parked on the top of the hill. It started rolling back slowly, but Obama is that hill. He took that slow moving car and has put in into turbo to the point where we aren't going to be able to stop it without someone getting really badly hurt.
The market has dropped 30% since Obama was elected. Every time he opens his mouth it drops again, twice now over 300 points in direct response to his speeches. Those with money are out right rejecting him and everything he stands for. At what point should people start yelling hey Obama STOP already!!
This is a hatchet job and it has to do with a section of our society who want healthcare to remain exactly where it is, because it is the last sector of our society which still has radically inflated prices. In the short term any health care reform, conservative or liberal, will reduce prices and add to the current deflation.
that is one concern. And the other is that investors actually want prices to go lower. For those few people with money these days, if prices continue to fall they can buy up controlling interest in the future of everything.
This current market crash is not a historical anomaly but a continuum of the long process of turning America into a truly fascist state. Anyone who doesn't see that now is just blind. To say Obama is part of that plot is plain ridiculous. He is naive and being used. He is making mistakes. But I hope he doesn't fail, because the next person coming down the pike might not actually have your best interest in hand.
We're through the looking glass here, living our first days in a strange new world.
The venom in Limbaugh's words tell a lot more than the words themselves. While Ron Paul and Rush Limbaugh verbally say almost 99 percent the same thing, the tone tells a completely different story. Tone is how Mark Antony started the riots in Rome. Tone is how Hitler took over Germany. And Limbaugh's tone, Ed Naile's and the elder Sununu's for that matter, in the midst of a depression have a much greater meaning than the face value of their words. Trust me, we are only in the first moments of the first act of this show. It will get very dramatic, very quickly, and those funding the next Republican candidate for President will be those who just purchased our nation free and clear.
You are a good person Richard, and definitely one of the better bloggers here. But do yourself a favor and don't trust anyone. Don't trust anyone. The percentage of people in this country who read between the lines is miniscule and that minority will be the few who get through this with their brains and souls not completely turned to mush.
If we have a true facist state with free health care you would be alright with that I assume?
How about a socialist state with free health care?
Communist state with free health care?
Which one of the three types of totalitarian governments would you put up with for FREE health care.
By free I mean government run where the gentle Harvard grads in charge make decisions for you and your family and once approved by your congressman will be channeled to you through the fine government employees at the front of the line in front of the clinic?
You already proved that you were willing to put up with a socialist state so long as the socialism took places as enormous deficits, enormous spending, called it "tax cuts" and refrained from letting the little guy in on the deal. That makes you as much a donkey as anyone else.
They can socialize corporate America without a peep from Ed Naile, but any reform of health care brings howls of pain (even though medicine is already socialized by mandates). Even Ron Paul distinguishes between the two types of socialism and calls the one you espouse the truly dangerous kind and the one I espouse a relatively harmless.
But in regards to your comment about the market and Obama not being part of that, how can you think that? The biggest drops on the market come directly after Obama and/or his group of tax cheat leaders make public statements with generalities of how they plan to save the country by stripping away money from the rich and not giving many details beyond that. It isn't to hard to see that the rich who actually have the money aren't liking what they are hearing so they are seeking ways to shelter their cash. And yes, several will get a lot richer by buying things out in fire sales. Is that evidence of a grand conspiracy? I don't think so.
As for Rush, I don't much like him and I definitely don't always agree with him. However in cases such as his I want Obama to fail comment that the left have been attacking him for, when you actually look at the full context of what he said it becomes very clear that the left have taken him out of context. This is far from the first time too. The left have become masters at extracting parts of statements to make things look far more damming then they really are. Read Blue Hampshire but take the time to follow the links and find the full context of what they write about, you'll see that nearly every article there does that. They lie by omission.
You put some words end to end as though they were sentences. I admire that but have not a clue what some of the patterns mean.
Example:
"(I am, according to you) willing to put up with a socialist state so long as the socialism took places as enormous deficits, enormous spending, called it "tax cuts" and refrained from letting the little guy in on the deal. That makes you as much a donkey as anyone else."
PLEASE show me how a small government with low taxes and the expectation personal responsibility from citizens is "socialized corporate America."
And are these principals I have the ones you say Rush orders me to abide by, or does he give me different orders?
And what type of totalitarian government are you willing to put up with for FREE gubment health stand in line care? You forgot to clear that up.
You are in all likelihood reality-phobic.
The scare tactic of stand-in-line healthcare is a farce. I needed a major surgery last year and was quoted a wait period of three to four months for the procedure. I also have a friend in Canada who needed a major surgery and was quoted six months, but after testing, he was fast-tracked and had the surgery after four weeks. In the meantime, I'm still on the clock....tick, tick, tick...
Dave is 100% correct that the profit margin in healthcare is bordering on criminal. And as a self-employed person raising a family, we had (only) a small 30% increase in our payments this year. We were lucky! Last year, our plan was increased 68%, forcing us to go to a lesser plan with higher deductibles and still pay about $200 more than we were paying in '07. The sad thing is I don't hold out much hope that healthcare will truly be reformed.
What is the benefit of saying "I want Obama to fail" over the much more sensible "I disagree with Obama and will fight him on a per issue basis."D.Jarvis
Because you don't make the rules Dave.It's that crazy freedom of speech thing.It is what allows you to sound like a lunatic.
Dave,your nuts dude.Your rants against our financial system are something to behold.It's all blah,blah,blah with no actual facts or links to said facts,just conjecture on your part.Then,when I give you proof of Democrat complicity in this mess(from a previous thread'This is Madness')I get a childish response.Don't worry,I did'nt expect anything more really.
You do know that Democrats voted for the TARP 1(172dems/91repubs voted yea)don't you?From reading your posts I am sure it really would'nt matter.
"don't trust anyone. Don't trust anyone. The percentage of people in this country who read between the lines is miniscule and that minority will be the few who get through this with their brains and souls not completely turned to mush."D.Jarvis
I believe it's already too late for you Dave.Maybe you should lock your doors before the big bad Republican boogie-man comes for you.I can picture you hiding under your table while some National Guard helicopters fly over your house because your so damn important in that feeble mind of yours.
The only way to protect against it is an image shift of Republicans to the moderate. I think we are in the same situation that France and Russia were in prior to their revolutions. They were paying war debt, in the midst of rapid inflation, and details of certain characters' secret lives slowly emerged to enrage the hungry crowds. I believe the secret life of George H. W. Bush and the neo-con, fascist type Republicans will affect the hungry crowds in the same way Marie Antoinette and Rasputin affected France and Russia.
My efforts in politics are to moderate the image of conservatives while arguing for solutions that will relieve anxiety in the masses. I am actually more conservative than I demonstrate, but I am convinced that without some idealogical compromises from the American right we are headed for a dangerous clash of ideologies. And I think Rush Limbaugh exacerbates the situation immensely.
I couldn't care less what those who quickly dismiss my concerns think. By doing so they prove they have no sense of history. There are many people who are well aware of the social dangers of where we are today and agree with me.
Barack Obama is a liar.
Now there's some shorthand.
I am still concerned about the fascist wing of the Republican Party but not because I think they have the power to imprison us all and microchip us, but because their bellicose tone almost invites a united global response to the economic policies of our elites. We are close to pressing the reset button here on our economy and when we do we should expect hostilities with those holding our debt.
In the meantime, our people are going to be hungry, depressed, cold, and pretty near desperate. In the midst of all this people like Michael Moore will be delving into the history of the fascist/neocon wing of the Republican Party virtually pushing the American public to the brink.
I don't care what any of you buy or not. I am satisfying my conscience here. We have pretty much the defacto triumph of Russia over Europe, we are just waiting for the the official "check mate" statement. We have the success of Iran over the middle east. The success of China over asia. And Latin America telling us where to go.
Meanwhile, the American economy is collapsing, a hard core socialist is in office, and kids are going out to watch "Che" in the movie theaters. Who killed Che? Why it was George H. W. Bush's good friend felix rodriguez. Things really do seem to be shaping up nicely.
It's time for calmer voices, compromise, and dialogue. That's my whole argument.
Let me sit back until we deal a new hand of reality cards.
Thanks.
That's rich coming from you.
For pity's sake shut up.
If Obama came out tomorrow and said he was cutting corporate taxes in half, and removing the tax on capital gains permanamtly would te market go up?
Yes it would. It would go up alot. Banks and insurance companies would start earning money on investments instead of losing them. People would get into the market now, and it would continue to rise.
Would companies would stop laying people off?--yes.
Would consumer confidence improve? Yes.
Obama can fix it, but he wont. He is not a pawn, he is at least a catalyst, and ore likely the instigator of the liberal conquest and destruction of the free market.
Congratulations amigo, you just created a panic on the dollar. Interest rates just rose to fifteen percent and the US current account deficit just quadrupled. We are forced into bankruptcy and most likely a global war.
Rowland and Ed,
Think what you want.