9-11 Theories Wont Go Away
Thursday, June 4, 2009 at 10:23AM I've read a number of theories about 9-11 ranging from wild theories that missiles with holograms to make them look like planes were what actually hit the twin towers to theories that the government was involved in planning the attacks. Even now theories are popping up even on this very site.
Part of the problem with most of the theories is they don't answer the basic questions of who, what, why and how and in fact most of them create new questions. For instance I saw a claim that the 9-11 attack allowed Bush to pass the patriot act. Ok, but what was the intent behind it? And why if it was some master plan under Bush is Obama pushing it even further then Bush did? Is Obama in on it?
Here are some questions I would love to see answered by 9-11 truthers.
How does the 1993 bombing fit into your theories?
Being as there was an attempt in 1993 to bomb the towers does this somehow imply or prove that Clinton was involved as well?
If Clinton was involved what was his motive?
Since most of the theories involve building 7 being taken down by explosives and being that there was a past attack on the towers using explosives then why bother with planes at all?
Why, if in fact Bush planned 9-11 to give cause to invade Iraq, where there no direct links back to Iraq?
Since many theories believe that Bush used 9-11 to pass the patriot bill and begin wire tapping and now Obama is expanding wire tapping instead of eliminating it does this implicate that somehow Obama is in on it?
Why were there no witnesses at all who can come forward to saying they saw the explosives being planted and why when the rubble was sifted through was there no evidence of explosives found?
The more I read of the theories the more they don't add up. These questions are just a few that rise from reading the different theories about how 9-11 was an inside job. And the more you read of them the more you need to suspend reality in order to buy into them as they raise more and more questions.
Bush was a bumbling idiot yet every theory out there implies he was a mastermind who was able to pull off one of the most complex plots of all time, a plot that had to involve countless others who planted the explosives and helped carry it all off yet no one has come forward admitting to it. Sorry but it just doesn't add up.
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Reader Comments (25)
I appreciate your arguments here but you come perilously close to plagiarizing me at least in two cases. Readers who have seen my comments in Dave Jarvis's "9-11 Was An Inside Job" posted on this website should note that there is good reason to conclude that you should have given me due attribution.
Just thought you should know.
Of course Bill Clinton wanted centralized control. So did George Bush. The best tool to scare and control the population is to create manufactured fear. Adolph Hitler did it in the 1930s by burning down his Reichstag Building and blamed it on his political enemies. Our CIA has drafted plans to do similar things, as well was having done them and admitted it at least 5 times throughout history. A conspiracy theory, too me, is the holographic image crap. Of course that is crap, anyone with two brain cells acting in unison can figure that out. But, we have had remote control technology for about 30 years. Anyways, my point is that false flag terrorism is everywhere. The centralization of power and control agenda is a common theme of both parties when elected into the White House. We would be very ignorant to think that our Leaders, a lot of them addicted to winning and willing to sell their soul for a dollar, would be any different then any other leader confronted with unlimited power. What makes you think that OUR country would not stage terrorist attacks HERE, when our agencies are notorious for doing EVERYWHERE AROUND THE WORLD. Documented cases on every continent, exception being Australia ( the MI6 handles it there ). Why have we not convicted anyone? And dont tell me we got Atta to confess thats crap too. Atta was wired $100,000 the day before 9/11 by Bin Ladens boss, a Pakistani ISI Officer. Look it up.
Are we really going to be that naive? Do you think that the people in Germany before Adolph Hitler took power thought that the Reichstagg was a false flag event? No, of course not, look where that got them. We can never stop demanding answers to this questions that still remain about 9/11. I believe that your questions, as well as mine should be answered, since you have the right to ask yours as well. And independent investigation is the only way to clear up this misunderstanding. Whether or not you believe a conspiracy was present or not is besides the point. The fact is that we need an independent investigation, and the evidence for that case is unlimited. Conspiracy or no conspiracy.
Your anti-Semitism is showing. What is disturbing is that you are probably a front page blogger at NH Insider hiding behind a pseudonym.
Let's see. Here are the causes/motives of the REAL 9/11 story as propagated by 9/11 Truthers:
1. It was about Enron
2. It was about an excuse of war to generate sales for military contractors
3. It was about an excuse for war to invade Iraq
4. It was about oil
5. It was about the Saudi royal family and their connections to the Bush family
6. It was about "the Jews"
7. It was about the FBI
8. It was about the CIA
9. It was about "Converse Info-Sys"
10. It was about "the Jews"
11. It was about a new world order
12. It was about globalization and centralized government
13. It as about "the Jews"
And just think who was involved to execute all these goals!
Truly, this all makes Moses' parting of the Red Sea all rather mundane and trite.
Ditto my second sentence above.
Here's a false choice if I ever saw one: "If you don't support a new independent investigation, then you must have an agenda." It's a bit like saying, "If you don't like milk, you must be a homophobe," with the exception that the latter is actually kind of witty.
There have been presented so many REASONS for the government conspirators to manufacture 9-11 that the suggestion there IS a conspiracy is nearly absurd. The great thing about the conspiracy theory as it now stands is that pretty much EVERYONE is involved: NTSB, ATF, CIA, DEFENSE, ATC, CLINTON, BUSH, ISRAEL, ENGLAND, the MEDIA, NYPD, NYFD, FBI, PORT, FAA, FCC, SCOTLAND YARD, the WHITE HOUSE, CONGRESS, BLACKWATER, SAUDI ARABIA, OSAMA BIN LADEN, AL QAIDA, AFGHANISTAN, COMMERCE, IRS, ENRON, EXXON-MOBIL, SUNOCO, and -- of course -- EVERYONE WHO BLINDLY BELIEVES THE STORY AS TOLD! We are all guilty; we are all conspiring to perpetrate blindness upon ourselves.
Except, of course, Mr. Tower.
http://www.nhinsider.com/richard-barnes/2007/4/6/9-11-conspirators-come-to-a-nh-college-near-you.html
There is no hope for either of us seeing eye to eye. It is sad to see that you think that your government is so innocent, when it is not even YOUR government. It is government that is run by and for bankers. OUR government was hijacked, this is the result. Yay! I cant wait for world government! You are WAY TO FREE. WE MUST GIVE AWAY OUR FREEDOMS IMMEDIATELY. THE TERRORISTS ARE COMING. RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!
Awesome tirade brother. I am more of a minimalist myself. I think the whole thing could have been planned and enacted by islamic terrorists just as the media and the 9/11 commission has reported with the only thing missing was the tea party some American spook had in a living room in the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
I have already commented today (in the OTHER thread here about 9/11) regarding your penchant for projecting on to me things I've never written. Here you go again:
"It is sad to see that you think that your government is so innocent, when it is not even YOUR government."
Don't you see how ridiculous this makes you sound? Do you think anyone here can take you seriously when you INVENT things out of thin air?
I have NEVER said or even implied that our "government is so innocent." What do you think you have to gain by making such absurd assertions?
Also, I never said that the victims' families did not deserve to have their questions answered. I am saying that your statement was utterly absurd. You may think you said something meaningful, but you didn't. The problem, then, is not with what I NEVER said but what you wrote so pathetically.
You EXEMPT Congress from any part in the GREAT BIG COVER-UP, which only proves again how far you've fallen. Granting such an exemption is a huge mistake on your part if your theory about 9/11 is true. Why do you believe Congress was not involved?
Anyone paying a modicum of attention to your arguments thus far would know that you believe the 9/11 Commission Report is a lie from start to finish. Who created that Commission? Wasn't it Congress? And who chose the five Republicans and five Democrats who sat on the panel? Congress.
Let's read what the 9/11 Commission Report says about Congress's involvement:
"We [the Commission] thank the Congress and the President. ... We have built on the work of several previous Commissions, and we thank the Congressional Joint Inquiry, whose fine work helped us get started." -- 9/11 Commission Report (page xvii)
So it is your contention that Congress deserves no blame for creating a Commission that summarily lied about the WHOLE of 9/11, correct? You might reply to my query that Congress could not have known that the Commission would LIE and LIE and LIE, but what are the chances that an innocent and naive Congress would JUST HAPPEN to place 10 co-conspirators on the 9/11 Commission? And didn't Congress sign off on the 9/11 Commission's findings?
Or, and here's something you might consider, maybe even what I've just quoted from the 9/11 Report is a lie! Every sentence is false throughout the entire report! (But that would mean that the Commission is lying when it says that the World Trade Center was attacked on 9/11.)
And here's one more question: If you believe that there should be a "new independent" inquiry into 9/11, how is Congress NOT to be blamed for being silent on the matter? Why isn't Congress RIGHT NOW agreeing with you? Isn't it because EVERYONE in Washington is lying to you?
We both know that this could go on for days, and everytime both of us will feel as though we are right. I believe they lied, you dont. Great. That is your right, good for you. There are still many questions to be answered about 9/11. People like myself will not go away until they are answered. We have a right to know what happened.
Ryan, perhaps I missed it but I do not see the 16 questions laid out. Where they in a different thread?
I'd be interested in taking a stab at them myself.
2.) Why did scientists find military grade nano thermite in the dust of the towers?
3.) Why was the hole in the pentagon about 80 square feet short of being able to fit a Boeing 757?
4.) Why did the President allow over 20 members of the Bin Laden family to fly around the United States on the day of September 11th? LITERALLY AT THE SAME TIME OSAMA WAS BEING BLAMED BY MAINSTREAM MEDIA.
5.) Why was the Pakistani ISI Chief having breakfeast with two United States Senators on the morning of 9/11? This same man wired the accused "hijacker" Mohamedd Atta $100,000 on September 10th. And why wasnt he questioned?
6.) Why was NORAD ( who was responsible for defending our airspace ) conducting a military excersise that involved terrorists hijacking commercial aircraft and flying them into the World Trade Center?
7.) Why did the CIA visit Bin Laden in Dubai while he was on dialysis in an American Hospital?
8.) Why does the CIA and the FBI have so many intimate connections to every terrorist attack that has taken place in America the past 20 years?
9.) Why did the news channel BBC report that building No. 7 fell twenty minutes before it even fell down?
10.) Why did the FBI ignore over 30 WARNINGS from other countries and allied governments?
11.) Why wont the FBI release the footage of the Pentagon crash? And put a rest to all conspiracies in one day?
12.) Why was George Bush's brother repsonsible for security of the buildings until the day before 9/11?
13.) Why were bomb sniffing dogs removed from security about a week before 9/11? At the request of Marvin Bush.
14.) Why were the fires, that supposedly weakened the steel frame of the building. emitting black smoke the entire time after explosion? Black smoke indicates a very weak, oxygen starved fire.
15.) Why did Rudy Guiliani know about 30 minutes before building No. 7 collapsed? He even told reporters while leaving his office in the building.
16.) Why have we not convicted anyone? Except for Khaleid Sheikh Mohamedd who the mainstream media reported that our forces had killed him about 4 times before the "confession" after he was waterboarded over 180 times.
17.) Why did every building fall completely to the ground in less then 10 seconds? When EVERY demolition expert says that is scientifically impossible during a "pancake collapse."
18.) Why have no other buildings ever in history collapsed due to fire? NOT ONE BUILDING IN HISTORY. I REPEAT, NOT ONE BUILDING IN HISTORY. Some steel buildings have actually burned for OVER 40 HOURS STRAIGHT without collapsing.
19.) Why did the commission report refuse to even mention building No. 7? Not a word.
20.) Why did we go to war with Iraq and not Saudi Arabia?
21.) Why does the Bush family have so many ties to the Bin Laden family? Dating back to, literally, the 1970's.
22.) Why does the CIA admit that false flag terrorism is the most effective way to coerce the populous into supporting a war and giving up their freedoms?
23.) Why are their CIA DOCUMENTS that admit, over the years, that they have staged terrorist attacks around the world? And blamed them on whoever was politically convenient?
24.) What was Bin Ladens motive? Obviously not money. Jealous of our freedom? What a joke.
25.) Why are over 1,000 proffessional Architects and Engineers saying that the Commission Report was a scientific joke?
If you need mroe questions let me know.. We still didnt even go over the Dick Cheny quotes, when he called for a " new pearl harbor " in order to get the united states to support invading Iraq to capture the oil..