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Jun292012

NH Republicans on O'Brien

A recent survey of NH's "influential" Republicans by Red Granite found that they feel William O'Brien deserves another term as House Speaker.  The story found HERE on the Patch website states the following:

In all, 102 Republicans from New Hampshire were asked using an automated survey tool whether they think O'Brien deserves another term as Speaker.

Fifty-two responses were collected.

52 responses?

Nearly two-thirds of those surveyed agreed to some degree that O'Brien deserves another term.

Two-thirds of 52 is only 35.

Asked where they felt O'Brien has succeeded as Speaker, more than half of those who responded cited his work to help balance the budget and keep spending in check.

"Achieving fiscal sanity," said one influential Republican.

"Righting the fiscal ship," said another.

I agree with that mentality in that O'Brien turned this state around.  When Democrats took control of the House, Senate and Governorship, they went into a spending frenzy like New Hampshire had never seen and left the state in a bad situation.

Instead of sitting back and just playing the blame game like Obama has done for 3 years now, O'Brien and state Republicans did "right the fiscal ship".

That said, here are the counter views...

Others were more critical, saying his greatest success was in "abuse of power," or "Tearing apart the Republican Party."

The influential Republicans surveyed were more varied in their responses when asked about O'Brien's failures.

Many cited the Speaker's inability to "handle the press" and deal with public relations.

Republicans need to listen to this group of "influential" Republicans.

Despite how well O'Brien has done accomplishing getting NH back in the right direction fiscally and passing things like Voter ID, all that is trumped by bad public relations.

Voters don't pay close enough attention to details, past UNH polls showed that most NH voters weren't even aware that NH Democrats ran the state budget into a deficit.  But they sure can recall story after story of Lynch showing up at disaster sites in his yellow ran slicker and they can sure tell you what a nice guy Lynch is.  Does it matter that when you look at polling results on issues people continually side against the way Lynch governs?  No, because people aren't paying close enough attention.

If you stopped 20 people on the street today and asked if they know which side Lynch or O'Brien took on the more well known issues over the past 2 years I doubt many would be able to answer.

Basically how "influential" Republicans feel is a non story, it doesn't matter.  It's how the basic voter feels and as long as O'Brien can't handle public relations and Democrats have someone like Lynch who looks good in a rain slicker and is a nice guy, Republicans will have problems.

The only positive for the Republican party right now is that Democrats have the White House which carries down a lot of votes (or in this case votes against) from the top and they have Obama who is arrogant and continually sliding down the popularity polls.  ObamaCare being the largest tax increase ever in US history isn't exactly a boon for the Democratic party either.  If it wasn't for that, NH Republicans would be in serious trouble.

Reader Comments (17)

Speaker O'Brien stepped in where the "popular" Lynch sat in his tiny hands, watching a billion in deficit spending go on.

No wonder the liberals hate him.
June 30, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterEd Naile
It's strange that some people still insist that budget deficits are a "liberal" problem. Maybe they need to crack open a newspaper once in a while.

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24editorial_graph2.html?ref=sunday
July 3, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterTroll
Troll –
You can add compassionate idiots to the derelict deficit problem. Seems like Libs and RINO's alike have the same problem adding up really big numbers.
– C. dog out on safari
July 3, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterC. dog
Troll,

1) this article above says NOTHING about the national debt but does discuss NH's deficit spending under Lynch and Democrats. Your response is bringing up apples to those oranges.

2) Regarding the national debt, you can spin anyway you wish picking "policy" as the NY Times did and looking only at that but here are the amounts increased:
national debt April 2001 starting Bush policy era $5,773,739,949,951.53
April 2006 Democrats took control of house and senate $8,175,743,292,992.87
April 2009 Obama took over with democrat house and senate $10,626,877,048,913.08
April 2011 Republicans took control of Congress (only) $14,254,174,516,308.48
As of this moment $15,871,164,214,033.00

So let's do the math:
6 years under Bush with Republicans in control $400,333,890,506.89 per year
2 years under Bush with Democrats in control $1,225,566,877,960.11 per year
2 years under Obama with Democrats in control of both houses $1,813,648,733,697.70
Since Republicans took congress $1,616,989,697,724.52

Spin anyway you want and look at tiny chunks to make yourself feel like you and your party are in the right but those are the raw national debt numbers. As you can see the highest points we've hit since 2001 were when we had full democratic party control and the lowest we had was under full republican control. And if you go back to when Clinton 'balanced the budget" you'd see it was when Republicans were in control under him.
July 3, 2012 | Registered CommenterRick Barnes
Rick:

Liberals and progressives do not "spin."

They are flat out liars - always have been - always will be.

Just plain liars.
July 3, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterEd Naile
Rick:

I'm sorry I was not making myself clear. I was most certainly not defending the Democrats when it comes to budget deficits, either local or national. My point was it does not appear to me to be a liberal/conservative issue but much more of a political system issue. It doesn't seem to matter whether it's Democrats or Republicans in charge; we all end up losing money.

On the local level, much ado has been made about the O'Brien budget and how it saved scads of money for everyone. However, I don't think the full impact of the budget has happened yet and it remains to be seen how it will effect town tax rates and services.

http://www.nhinsider.com/storage/The%20Republican%20state%20budget%20will%20harm%20NH.pdf

On the national level, you say "Since Republicans took congress $1,616,989,697,724.52". That's a fine start but somehow saying "we are good because we suck a tiny bit less" is not very reassuring.

So the choices seem to be tax and spend or tax cuts, borrow and spend. Neither of those are a long term solution and saying crap like
"Liberals and progressives do not "spin."

They are flat out liars - always have been - always will be.

Just plain liars."

isn't going to help anyone but the politicos looking to divide and conquer. With half the country liberal and half conservative, maybe we need to start looking for common ground instead of resorting to pissant name calling.
July 5, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterTroll
Or maybe, Troll, we should start looking at splitting the country in half. You guys take LA-LA Land, MA-MA Land, and all other bastions of Libation, we'll take the rest. Wunder if you guys could survive with "open" borders? We'll keep the light on for ya when you want a 6-pack of beer and some smokes.
– C. dog opens discount Sin-mart store that serves only out-o-state dumbocrats
July 6, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterC. dog
Bill O'Brien proved himself first and foremost to be a fascist, an absolute control freak. Any of his accomplishments--and they are really few in number if you look at it--must be viewed the way we would view any other fascist...from Mussolini to Hitler. Benito made the trains run on time but can we use that to excuse his fascism? I think not. Dolf got the Rhineland back and Austria and the Sudentenland; he built up German roads, but can any array of good things excuse his ultimate descent into fascism? Of course not. The legend of Bill O'Brien will be of opportunities lost and of--Sieg Heil type fascism. The fact that too many Republicans would salute to fascism is truly sad--not to mention SCARY!
Bill O'Brien lead the charge against the $800 million dollar Democrat Deficit.

He won, New Hamsphire won.

End of story - except for those who hoped the Democrat tax and spend and borrow scheme would lead to a broad based tax and a smaller PAID legislature.

That is what this, I hate Bill O'Brien tantrum is really all about.

Saul Alinsky loses this time!
July 8, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterEd Naile CNHT
Steve V,

You really need to stop holding on to the hate man, it doesn't become you, and it apparently, has consumed you as well.

DT
July 10, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterRep. Dan Tamburello
Speaker O'Brien has done a superb job in my opinion...if people only knew the cast of characters that have to be dealt with, they would understand that O'Brien is nothing short of brilliant!...Rep Vaillancourt's constant rants are baseless and vindictive...
July 11, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterFred Leonard
I don't understand how people can bluster about freedom and liberty on the one hand and yet support a man who shuts out the free press with a gigantic hissy fit on the other. That, my friends, smacks of hypocrisy.
July 12, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterTroll
It is amazing when a person says he is going to do something and does it we call him a facist because he didn't kiss up toyour or the good old boys (GOBs). Look at the results and then look at how it was done without smoke and mirrors or vague promises. Stevie boy.... you are starting to sound like your old room mate Raybo. Peel youself off the roof. Bill O'Brien has been best thing for the citizens. It's too bad his counterpart in the Senate spent too much time sucking toes and making nice to the GOBs.
July 16, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterdave
Troll, what smacks of hypocrisy is the false outcry from the Democrats in NH upset with O'Brien shutting out the press but then having no problem with Obama banned press on a couple occasions. The was a lot of out cry about O'Brien from the left and the right, I cannot say the same about Obama.
July 17, 2012 | Registered CommenterRick Barnes
Rick,
I'm sorry but I must have missed that. When did Obama exclude the press? I hope you are not talking about the bogus press pool story, That has already been debunk. Fox News was omitting details to the story (imagine that) to make themselves look like victims to cover their own incompetence. Hopefully, you have a better story than that.

If there is a REAL story of press exclusion then my feelings would be the same irregardless of party affiliation. The free press is one of our most important protections against corrupt government and any attempts to silence it (no matter how moronic and self serving they might be) is wrong.
July 18, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterTroll
Rick:

Doesn't Hussein Obama exclude the conservative press from all the stuff his people are leaking from the State Department and military?

Isn't that kinda-sorta like limiting the press?

Yea, I think so - and treason.
July 19, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterEd Naile
Ed,
Pretty incendiary accusations with absolutely no evidence. Let me guess, you heard on Fox News or Rush Limbaugh, right? It must be very comforting to be so sure of your (their) convictions despite the complete lack of any proof.
July 20, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterTroll

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