Should Abortion be Commemorated?

In the past the pro abortion side have at least attempted to pretend abortions were wrong and were horrible things.  They've at least attempted to claim they too would like to see abortions become rare even though they feel they should remain legal.

That went out the window with the introduction of House Resolution 6.

This house resolution commemorates the 40th anniversary of the Roe v Wade Supreme Court
decision and affirms support for its holding and principles.

Commemorating Roe v Wade?  Commemorating is defined as "Make honorable mention of".  Do you think abortion is honorable or something that should be commemorate?

And which reps attached their names to this?

Rep. Bouchard (D), Merr 18
Rep. Wall (D), Straf 6
Rep. Rosenwald (D), Hills 30
Rep. Harding (D), Graf 13
Rep. Lockwood (R), Merr 9
Rep. Theberge (D), Coos 3;
Rep. Kidder (R), Merr 5
Rep. Sad (D), Ches 1

The public hearing for this resolution is 1 PM this Thursday (2/14/13), I would like to urge anyone who does not thing abortion is something to commemorate to attend and let these representatives know.

You can also email the committee here HHSEA@leg.state.nh.us

Comments

[Jim Splaine]

The freedom of choice of women making their own decisions should be commemorated. One of my first votes in the N.H. Legislature was in 1969, even before Roe v Wade, for a bill that would allow choice. To this day I consider it one of my most important decisions, because it was the right thing to do.

[Rick Barnes]

So let me see if I can follow your logic Jim...

You voted to make it illegal for someone to choose whether or not they can wear a seatbelt.
You support ObamaCare which takes away choice for someone who chooses not to pay out for health insurance.
You oppose people having the choice of whether or not they wish to pay into a union.
You oppose people having the choice to opt out of social security and instead invest their money into a private retirement fund.

But you support a woman's right to take the life of an unborn human (despite the right we all have to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness) and you feel this choice is worthy of commemoration.

At just 21 days after conception the heart begins to beat on its own. Respiratory systems begin to form at 4 weeks. Brainwaves begin at 6 weeks.

So you have a living, breathing, thinking being which you feel it is the right thing to do to allow someone to snuff that out because it's a "choice" and it should be commemorated but all other choices you disagree with are OK to limit and strip away from people.

[Jim Splaine]

Well, Rick -- you have some of that right. I voted in favor of allowing a woman who you might have participated in getting pregnant the right to choose. You can talk with her and make your choice known, but ultimately it is her choice -- not yours, not mine, and not a decision of government.

On the other matters you mention: If one works at a place where there is a union that has fought for his/her benefits and pay levels, he/she should have to pay for the benefits of the union; seat belts not only save the lives of those who may be in the car, but they also save the lives of those who if that driver is otherwise moved out of position to properly steer that car by not having a seat belt; Obamacare does not force you to buy any health insurance at all, but it's a wise thing to do if you can afford it, and when Obamacare is fully implemented you and millions of others who need assistance to do so will be helped; and Social Security has been a life-saver for millions of our nation's seniors and disabled for many decades, without which we would be paying in other much more costly ways since I'm sure even the most conservative and self-centered among us would not let seniors have to die in the streets without food and housing -- in fact, too much of that happens even with Social Security as a safety-net. Thank you, Democrats and Franklin D. Roosevelt. With a splattering of depression-era Republicans.

And you didn't mention it, but thank Democrats and Harry Truman and Lyndon Johnson (and a very few Republicans) for Medicare as well.

[Troll]

Rick, you are intentionally mistating the point of the resolution to support your own narrow views. No one is "celebrating" abortion and for you to infer otherwise is intellectually dishonest. What is to be celebrated is the affirmation of the 14th amendment and the right to privacy from government intrusion, something I would have thought you libertarians would also celebrate. I guess you just want government out of YOUR life not everyone else's lives.

[Rick Barnes]

Troll, libertarians are split on the issue based on where they believe life begins.

There is no disagreement however that once it is considered life that we are all guaranteed the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

As for me misstating anything... if the article is to celebrate the 14th amendment then why doesn't it say that. And for that matter just which part of the 14th would this be commemorating? The part that reads "nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." Of course if a baby isn't counted as a person it's ok to deprive them of life.

In fact Troll, the wording (stated in full in my quote above) doesn't even mention the constitution so I fail to see how I'm twisting the point of the resolution. Here's the wording one more time in full:

This house resolution commemorates the 40th anniversary of the Roe v Wade Supreme Court
decision and affirms support for its holding and principles.

"commemorates the 40th anniversary of the Roe v Wade" it flat out says that is what is being commemorated here.

If you want to commemorate the 14th amendment or other parts of the constitution I can give several suggestions that are less dividing that both parties should be able to agree on.

[Troll]

Rick, your mistake is interpreting that Roe v Wade was simply about a woman's right to get an abortion. While that might have been the impetus for the lawsuit, it seems the "holding and principles" of the decision deal with the due process clause and that IS something to be celebrated. Maybe the problem lies with your own limited interpretation of the ruling.

[Ed Naile]

Rick:

Libs thought this would all go away with the phony court decision.

All they have done is kill millions and create a wedge issue that they are losing with young people, of all demographics.

[Troll]

You really need to get different sources for your info, Ed. I have not found ANY poll that suggests support fot abortion rights is dropping. While we can disagree about whether the right to have an abortion is right or wrong, to make up facts to support your point is just plain wrong. Did you hear on Hannity, maybe? Or maybe Michelle Bachmann told you through the secret brain waves you receive when you take off your tin foil hat?

[Jim Splaine]

Support for women's choice has been strong and growing steadily, especially among young people. Same as for marriage equality. It's an American value to support freedom in making decisions over our own bodies and relationships.